Wednesday 8 August 2018

Why are we all so convinced the brain produces consciousness?

Most people seem to take it for granted that the brain produces consciousness and they surmise this because when the brain is damaged, the person’s mind is also damaged. Such damage not only can result in the diminishing of one’s mental capacities, it often seemingly changes the actual personality. The obvious conclusion is that the brain produces consciousness, otherwise why should the mind be affected?



Proponents of an afterlife almost invariably ignore this argument.  Instead they counter with the evidence for an afterlife such as NDE’s, mediumship, recollections of alleged previous lives, and so on.  It seems to me that implicitly, therefore, they are conceding to the skeptic that this mind-brain correlations argument is a very powerful one indeed and to be avoided. However, it is my contention that there is no need for the proponent to avoid addressing this argument head-on since, as I shall argue, it appears to be considerably less powerful than it is often thought. 



Let’s consider the following related argument: 



It surely must be obvious to everyone that spectacles (i.e. eyeglasses) actually create vision. Changing the lenses affects the vision in certain characteristic ways. One can make one's vision worse, or better. One can make one be able to see in the distance, but not close up; or conversely, to see close up, but not at a distance. We can invert peoples' vision. We can make people see everything in blue, or red, or green, you name it. Or all blurry. By painting the lenses black we can even eliminate one's vision completely! And all these effects are consistent across different people.



Of course, we know that spectacles don’t create vision. Indeed, we know in principle that spectacles could not create vision all by themselves since there is no appropriate mechanism, or conceivable causal chain, whereby vision could be created. Extra ingredients are required; namely eyes and the part of the brain dealing with vision.



Other examples apart from spectacles can be considered. Thus, consider a prism. The mixture of coloured lights obtained is not wholly produced by the prism all by itself. Something extra is involved, in this case, the white light that enters the prism. Or consider a TV set. The internal components all by themselves do not produce the programmes. Similar to the prism something else is involved, in this case, TV signals. 



So it cannot be that the mind-brain correlations all by themselves establish that the brain creates consciousness, for how are we in a position to rule out that the relationship of consciousness to the brain is not of a similar nature to the forgoing examples where there is an extra ingredient involved; namely what we would call a self or soul?  In fact, I would go further and maintain that the brain- consciousness relationship is indeed of a similar nature to these examples. That is to say, similarly to the complete implausibility of expecting vision to be created from spectacles all by themselves, likewise it is similarly implausible to expect consciousness to be created from brains and the processes within them all by themselves



Consciousness is supposed to come into being as the end consequence of physical chains of causes and effects.  Such causes and effects are cashed out in the form of processes that we can measure; namely particles with physical properties such as charge, momentum, spin and so on, and their interactions. But at the end of such causal chains we get a sudden abrupt change from these measurable processes to subjective experiences such as, for example, the greenness of grass, the warmth of love, the smell of roses and so on. It seems we have an unbridgeable yawning ontological chasm between the termination of such physical causal chains, and such raw experiences. There is no appropriate mechanism, or conceivable causal chain, whereby such qualitative experiences could be created. The sensible conclusion then is to surely suppose that consciousness was there all along, and the processes within the brain merely affect its manifestation.  Compare to the spectacles example.  Spectacles affect vision, they can even block our vision completely if we paint the lenses black, nevertheless the unaided vision exists all along.  The spectacles do not, and could not, create vision.






An Objection



 


It is often argued that we lack any enduring nature since we change so much over time.  Hence our moods, demeanour, interests, intelligence, change throughout our lives.  Compared to when we were children we now have a much increased intelligence, we have differing interests, we have differing memories, our emotional reactions are very different. Even during the course of one day our moods can change significantly.  And just consider how much people change after a few alcohol drinks.



But all this just means that if we should find ourselves surviving the death of our bodies, then it is the underlying self that survives. What constitutes my self is that sense of me-ness that has endured since I was a child, to when I'm drunk, to what I am now. The fact that our interests, intelligence, demeanour change etc, is ultimately no more significant than, for example, the fact a table acquires scratches as it ages. Or to use the spectacles analogy, it is the unaided vision that is comparable to the self and survives.



None of the foregoing entails that there is an afterlife.  But I do think that the mind-brain correlations argument against an afterlife is significantly less compelling than people think it is.




11 comments:

  1. interesting points, but if the mind is a process happening within the context of the brain, how would your conclusion change?

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    1. If the mind is a physical process, then I would conclude there's no afterlife.

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    2. proof of that life after death exists even if consciousness is produced by brain: https://qdb.wp.kukmara-rayon.ru/2019/12/17/proof-of-afterlife/ .
      (i have come here from your tweet found by hashtag, by which i tried to promote/advertise this my post).

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  2. "There is no appropriate mechanism, or conceivable causal chain, whereby such qualitative experiences could be created. The fundamental problem is that the input to our brain, mind and/or consciousness is extremely restricted by language. Almost all people can identify the fragrance of an orange; but, to someone who can't know that fragrance it's lost in translation. The same thing happens with all objective and also subjective experience. A solution to this problem will probably arise from the engineering of psychic phenomena which are many and varied but absolutely real. It's just a matter of time.

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  3. I like the spectacles analogy, might use that at some point.

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  4. The spectacles argument is brilliant. Did you come up with that on your own?

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    1. Yes. I've never come across anyone else ever using it.

      PS Just published this comment and loads of others. I never got notified by email for some reason. Sorry about the delay.

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  5. The fact that you use a "spectacles" analogy diminishes your position, I think. In what useful sense are spectacles analogous to a brain? Spectacles are simple, brain is complex. There is very little similarity.

    A brain, which is a complex organ, and additionally is the product of millions of evolutionary experiments (which adds yet another level of complexity) is capable of creating consciousness. The "spectacles" analogy has little power to suggest it is not. And if you say that consciousness requires even more complexity than the brain possesses (therefore you must posit an external source of consciousness), where is the evidence of that? Do you have concrete evidence of this "more complex that the brain" thing?

    I think that consciousness (me-ness, sense of self, our sense of continuity) is a useful fabrication of the brain, which we have because it is evolutionarily favorable. My analogy is that consciousness is a story we tell ourselves. The value of stories is that they are mnemonics to remember useful but complex information. The other value of stories is that they can be told to other members of the tribe around the fireside. A story which describes the tribe running away from the shore when the ocean retreats has a huge evolutionary genetic advantage. In addition, I think that adept storytellers became the leaders of tribes, and they had procreative advantage. In addition, the extended brain plasticity of human babies means that early exposure to storytelling, and language, and detailed communication hardwires a storytelling neural network in our brain. Notice that the first sense of me-ness happens once you had acquired language. There is an article somewhere of a deaf mexican man who had no language until he was in his 20's; he calls his time before language "the black time". He does not really have a clear memory of it.

    You don't discuss it, but I want to add an additional point about free will. I suspect that 99.9% of our decisions are made for us by subconscious programming. There are a few decisions that are made by a flip-of-the-coin (chaotic random events), and these may result in something good or bad. We add the result to our personal narrative (often rationalizing that we made the decision of our own free will). By reliving the narrative, we alter the subconscious programming a bit. That makes a better decision next time, which we rationalize that our free will is responsible for.

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  6. 2/2 The idea that consciousness exists because it is evolutionarily favourable assumes that consciousness makes a difference to our behaviour. But, near the end, you insinuate all our behaviour is the result of material processes. If true then consciousness doesn’t make a difference. Having said that, I have argued elsewhere that consciousness *per se* is necessarily efficacious. Go here: https://ian-wardell.blogspot.com/2019/11/a-causal-consciousness-free-will-and.html So if, as I argue, consciousness does make a difference, then perhaps evolution can somehow account for it. But my argument rules out modern materialism and hence undermines the whole modern western metaphysical conception of what we (and other animals) essentially are.

    I honestly don't think we have compelling reason to conclude that brains produce consciousness. Normally if X *produces* Y, Y is simply an inevitable consequence of all that is happening within X. We can, *at least in principle* trace all the causal chains and understand how Y results. We cannot do this with brains and consciousness.

    Moreover, we have a ton of evidence suggesting an afterlife. Young children apparently remembering previous lives that have been investigated and often it is found their memories check out. There's stuff like crisis apparitions, deathbed visions, shared death experiences etc. There's mystical experiences, DMT trips etc that strongly suggest there's more to this world than the materialist assumes. Also the modern western culture is virtually unique in emphatically rejecting an afterlife.

    So, I would ask you and others who are dismissive of an afterlife how you can be so certain? What understanding and knowledge do you have that you can dismiss all the philosophical arguments, dismiss peoples’ experiences, dismiss mystical experiences, dismiss the fact virtually all other cultures have recognised an afterlife, dismiss the fact that even young children implicitly suppose an afterlife and indeed beforelife (see a blog post of mine in my other blog http://ianwardells.blogspot.com/2016/01/atheists-claim-we-are-born-atheists.html).

    So I'm really struggling with why people are so certain that there's no afterlife. I think people have been effectively brainwashed by our modern western world.

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  7. Unknown said:
    ||"Afterlife: I'm not even going here. The only evidence of afterlife is created from wishful thinking. Children remembering events that are independently verifiable only happens by coincidence, if ever.||

    You're not going to comment on the very topic the blog post actually addresses? :O

    Your evolution argument simply ignores my original blog post where I state "there is no appropriate mechanism, or conceivable causal chain, whereby such qualitative experiences could be created". If there's no conceivable causal chain that can result in consciousness, then how on earth can evolution help? Indeed, evolution *presupposes* the notion that there are only material causes and effects. Unfortunately, this neither accounts for the very existence of consciousness, nor the causal efficacy of consciousness. I've given you the relevant links where I argue this.

    I do have a genuine interest in why people think an afterlife is so unlikely. In common with virtually everyone else, you've provided no clue as to why you believe as you do. So I have nothing further to respond to.

    I think in future I'm going to have to disallow irrelevant comments.

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