Sunday 10 July 2016

Sean Carroll and the philosophy of mind and science

I recently read the following article by Sean Carroll who is a theoretical physicist.  In it he says:

 


If these
mental properties affected the behavior of particles in the same way
that physical properties like mass and electric charge do, then they
would simply be another kind of physical property. You are free to
postulate new properties that affect the behavior of electrons and
photons, but you’re not simply adding new ideas to the Core Theory (the
enormously successful model of the particles and forces that make up
you, me, the sun, the moon, the stars, and everything you have ever
seen, touched, or tasted in all your life). Instead, you are saying that
it is wrong. If mental properties affect the evolution of quantum
fields, there will be ways to measure that effect experimentally, at
least in principle, not to mention all of the theoretical difficulties
with regard to conservation of energy and so on that such a modification
would entail. It’s reasonable to assign very low credence to such a
complete overhaul of the very successful structure of known physics.

 

There are 2 points to be made here.



First of all, science as currently conceived cannot in principle explain consciousness (see my essay Neither Modern Materialism nor Science as currently conceived can explain Consciousness ).
The "Core Theory", as he labels it, therefore we know is false. Or, as I would prefer to say, at least it cannot be a complete description of reality. Hence, to say that any
modification has little credence simply fails to understand this point. Necessarily the "core theory", is incorrect, or at least it is not wholly correct.




Secondly, there's this persistent misunderstanding, and one that Carroll seems to share, that scientific
theories describe reality in their totality. But that's not what we learn from
the history of science. The history of science teaches us that our
theories give approximations only, even if those approximations might
be very close approximations. Generally, our old scientific theories are often perfectly adequate to
describe a given domain, but break down when attempting to describe that
which resides outside that domain. Thus, the science prior to
relativity and quantum mechanics is "wrong", however, that does
nothing to prevent the Newtonian mechanical description of reality being able to be
used to get us to the moon and back.  In addition, the classical mechanics espoused before the advent of Quantum Mechanics is perfectly
adequate to describe the macroscopic realm, even though it might be "wrong".  Quantum Mechanics is only needed when we describe the microscopic realm.




Now, consciousness has only existed for a
vanishingly medium part of the history of the Universe and is confined to
planets which presumably will be very few and far between. I suggest
the "core theory" describes non-conscious reality -- that is to say the overwhelming majority of the physical realm -- to a very close
approximation, just as classical mechanics describes
the macroscopic realm to a very close approximation. But that it breaks
downs when it comes to consciousness, just as classical mechanics breaks
down with the physics of the very medium.







3 comments:

  1. "If mental properties affect the evolution of quantum fields, there will be ways to measure that effect experimentally, at least in principle, not to mention all of the theoretical difficulties with regard to conservation of energy and so on that such a modification would entail."

    Micropsychokinesis experiments may have something to do with that point. And the law of conservation of energy is not violated due to the Heisenberg principle while the amount of energy is small.

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  2. Actually, physics describes only an infinitesimal aspect of the observable universe. well, really, technically speaking, physics has nothing to say about the observable universe.

    Because physics cannot account for phenomena (literally, that which appears), which is what the **observable** universe consists of. Physics only provides us information about quantitative processes; it has nothing to say about qualitative experience.

    Materialistic (or more properly, physicalist) physics, provides no explanation for how order has emerged from chaos, how order persists, for the qualitative aspects of the universe, for the emergence of sentience, emotions, understanding, intelligence or consciousness.

    In short, science does not explain anything. Michel Bitbol has an essay online about this (Bitbol, is a physicist, by the way): "Is Consciousness Primary?" http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/4007/1/ConsciousnessPrimaryArt2.pdf

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  3. Thanks Don. I'll take a look at his essay.

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